Fever United FC NTX
ECNL Regional League Girls · North Texas GU14 · 20 teams · Fever United (all teams)
Next game — Sat Oct 31, 08:00 AM
●●●●● Very tough to win
Most likely score 1–2 (expected goals 1.6 for, 2.5 against · 0.89 expected points)
| Season so far | Fever United FC NTX | SOLAR RED NTX |
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| Position | 14th | 12th |
| Record (W-D-L) | 2-0-3 | 2-1-2 |
| Points per game | 1.20 | 1.40 |
| Goals for / game | 1.4 | 2.8 |
| Goals against / game | 1.8 | 2.0 |
| Clean sheets | 2 | 1 |
| Held scoreless | 0 | 1 |
| Form (recent first) | L L W W L | W D L L W |
| Biggest win | 2–0 at Kernow Storm FC NTX | 5–1 vs Kernow Storm FC NTX |
| Worst loss | 1–3 at BVBIA DFW NTX | 0–3 at SOLAR NTX |
| Model rating (net goals vs avg) | -0.22 | +0.52 |
| Schedule faced (avg opp. rating) | +0.32 | -0.29 |
Common opponents: BVBIA DFW NTX — we 1–3; they 1–2. Kernow Storm FC NTX — we 2–0; they 5–1. NTX Celtic FC NTX — we 1–3; they 4–4.
Game plan
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Underdog — play free, stay organised
Model gives 24%; a draw (18%) would be a good result.Keep the shape compact, make them play in front of you, and hit space behind their full-backs on transitions. A point here is a win for the table; a win is a season-changer.
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Away game
Kickoff 08:00 AM at Dallas Soccer Park.Arrive 75 minutes early to see the surface and goal size; plan a longer dynamic warm-up after a drive. Away wins are worth the same 3 points — keep the routine identical to home.
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Early kickoff
Game time 08:00 AM.Light breakfast 2+ hours before, longer warm-up, and a loud start — early games are won by whoever is awake at the whistle.
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What a win does
Kernow Storm FC NTX sit 13th on 1.40 PPG; we are on 1.20.A point moves us above Kernow Storm FC NTX on PPG (if they don't play). GD is the next tiebreak, so every goal matters — keep attacking with a lead.
If Saturday goes…
Where we'd sit after the SOLAR RED NTX game. The table is ordered by points per game, so one result can move us several places. Type any score in the first row (Fever United FC NTX – SOLAR RED NTX) to see where it lands us; it resets when you reload. Likely results plays out the model's most likely score in the 8 other games that week (Mon Oct 26 – Sun Nov 1); the outer columns are the best and worst the rivals can do.
| Our result | Rivals don't play | Likely results | Every rival wins |
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| – Loss · 1.00 PPG |
14th— holds | 14th— holds | 14th— holds |
| Win 1.50 PPG |
12th▲ up 2 | 11th▲ up 3 | 13th▲ up 1 |
| Draw 1.17 PPG |
14th— holds | 14th— holds | 14th— holds |
| Loss 1.00 PPG |
14th— holds | 14th— holds | 14th— holds |
Can we move up this round? No. With a 1–2 loss we stay 14th even if every rival loses, whatever the rivals do.
Where we finish
2,000 simulated seasons
- 1st
- 2nd
- 3rd
- 4th <1%
- 5th <1%
- 6th <1%
- 7th 2%
- 8th 4%
- 9th 7%
- 10th 9%
- 11th 14%
- 12th 18%
- 13th 24%
- 14th 14%
- 15th 6%
- 16th 2%
- 17th 1%
- 18th <1%
- 19th
- 20th
Every remaining game in the division is played out with the forecast's goal odds, 2,000 times, and the table is re-sorted each time. Green marks the top 4.
Climbing the table
What it takes to pass each team above us, from our 10 remaining known games (max 2.40 PPG if we win out).
| # | Team | PPG | Proj. | To pass them |
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| 1 | Sting Brave NTX | 3.00 (+1.80) | 1st (2.65) | 39 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 34 for their projection — out of reach on the known schedule |
| 2 | SOLAR NTX | 2.60 (+1.40) | 2nd (2.46) | 33 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 31 for their projection — out of reach on the known schedule |
| 3 | Sting Royal NTX | 2.40 (+1.20) | 3rd (2.22) | 30 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 28 for their projection |
| 4 | BVBIA DFW NTX | 2.40 (+1.20) | 5th (2.14) | 30 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 27 for their projection |
| 5 | SOLAR WHITE NTX | 2.25 (+1.05) | 7th (1.78) | 28 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 21 for their projection |
| 6 | FC Dallas Youth Blue NTX | 2.17 (+0.97) | 4th (2.20) | 27 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 28 for their projection |
| 7 | Dallas Cosmos SC NTX | 1.83 (+0.63) | 6th (1.79) | 22 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 21 for their projection |
| 8 | Dallas Texans NTX | 1.75 (+0.55) | 11th (1.46) | 21 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 16 for their projection |
| 9 | Sting Black NTX | 1.67 (+0.47) | 8th (1.61) | 20 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 19 for their projection |
| 10 | NTX Celtic FC NTX | 1.67 (+0.47) | 9th (1.55) | 20 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 18 for their projection |
| 11 | DKSC WHITE NTX | 1.60 (+0.40) | 12th (1.32) | 18 of 30 pts to pass their current pace, 14 for their projection |
| 12 | SOLAR RED NTX | 1.40 (+0.20) | 10th (1.51) | A point next game |
| 13 | Kernow Storm FC NTX | 1.40 (+0.20) | 14th (1.10) | A point next game |
How the results connect
10 chains · 9 teams
Paths of results that link Fever United FC NTX to SOLAR RED NTX through teams both have faced, drawn as one map. Teams sit in columns by how many games away from us they are. Each arrow is one game, pointing away from us, and its colour is the result for the team it starts from. Hover or tap an arrow to trace a chain and see its net goal margin.
Hover or tap an arrow to trace a chain, or step through them with the arrows. Open full screen and turn your phone to see the whole map.
Step through the chains with the arrows, or tap one on the map.
Position over the season
11 game days
The table re-sorted after each date on which a game was played. Shaded band is the top 4.
The path
run-in difficulty -0.08 · 11th hardest of 20
| Date | Opponent | Where | Difficulty | Win | Likely | Exp. pts | Run. PPG | Priority |
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| Sat Oct 31 08:00 AM |
SOLAR RED NTX 12th · 2-1-2 · GD +4 |
Away Dallas Soccer Park |
●●●●● Very tough | 24% |
1–2 | 0.89 | 1.15 | Upside |
| Sun Nov 1 11:40 AM |
Sting Brave NTX 1st · 4-0-0 · GD +30 |
Home Dallas Soccer Park |
●●●●● Very tough | 5% |
1–3 | 0.24 | 1.02 | Upside |
| Sat Nov 7 07:00 PM |
DKSC NTX 20th · 0-0-6 · GD -40 |
Away Dallas Soccer Park |
●○○○○ Favorable | 87% |
3–0 | 2.69 | 1.23 | Bank it |
| Sat Feb 6 01:30 PM |
Sting Royal NTX 3rd · 4-0-1 · GD +16 |
Home Dallas Soccer Park |
●●●●● Very tough | 17% |
1–3 | 0.65 | 1.16 | Upside |
| Sat Feb 20 01:30 PM |
FC Dallas Youth White NTX 18th · 0-1-4 · GD -26 |
Away Dallas Soccer Park |
●●○○○ Lean win | 72% |
3–1 | 2.31 | 1.28 | Bank it |
| Sun Feb 21 07:00 PM |
Sting Black NTX 9th · 3-1-2 · GD +12 |
Away Dallas Soccer Park |
●●●●● Very tough | 17% |
1–3 | 0.67 | 1.22 | Upside |
| Sat Feb 27 01:30 PM |
Nido Dallas NTX 15th · 1-0-4 · GD -18 |
Home Dallas Soccer Park |
●●○○○ Lean win | 73% |
3–1 | 2.33 | 1.32 | Bank it |
| Sat Mar 6 09:50 AM |
FC Dallas Youth Blue NTX 6th · 4-1-1 · GD +26 |
Away Dallas Soccer Park |
●●●●● Very tough | 7% |
1–3 | 0.29 | 1.24 | Upside |
| Sat Apr 3 05:10 PM |
SOLAR WHITE NTX 5th · 3-0-1 · GD +13 |
Home Dallas Soccer Park |
●●●●● Very tough | 22% |
1–2 | 0.85 | 1.21 | Upside |
| Sat Apr 10 05:10 PM |
Dallas Texans Red NTX 19th · 0-1-5 · GD -27 |
Away Dallas Soccer Park |
●●○○○ Lean win | 73% |
3–1 | 2.34 | 1.28 | Bank it |
"Far trip" = the venue's zip is outside our home sectional area (first three digits), a rough travel flag, not a distance. Venue names open in Google Maps. "Bank it" = expected win, dropping points here hurts most. "Swing game" = near coin-flip, where the finish is decided. "Upside" = underdog, nothing to lose. Running PPG assumes the expected points from every game up to that row.
Standings
| # | Team | GP | W | D | L | GF | GA | GD | Pts | PPG | Form | SoS | Run-in | Top 4 | Exp. finish | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| 1 | Sting Brave NTX | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 30 | 0 | +30 | 12 | 3.00 | WWWW | -2.31 | +0.46 | 99% | 1.5 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sun Oct 25 at SOLAR WHITE NTX · Sat Oct 31 vs FC Dallas Youth Blue NTX · Sun Nov 1 at Fever United FC NTX See all 11 future matchups ▸
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| 2 | SOLAR NTX | 5 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 20 | 2 | +18 | 13 | 2.60 | DWWWW | +0.03 | -0.18 | 96% | 2.3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 at Kernow Storm FC NTX · Sat Oct 31 vs DKSC WHITE NTX · Sat Nov 7 at FC Dallas Youth Red NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 3 | Sting Royal NTX | 5 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 23 | 7 | +16 | 12 | 2.40 | LWWWW | -0.31 | -0.19 | 67% | 4.0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Thu Oct 29 at Dallas Texans NTX · Sun Nov 8 at BVBIA DFW NTX · Sat Feb 6 at Fever United FC NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 4 | BVBIA DFW NTX | 5 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 11 | 4 | +7 | 12 | 2.40 | WWWWL | +0.33 | -0.45 | 47% | 4.6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 at DKSC WHITE NTX · Sat Oct 31 vs Kernow Storm FC NTX · Sun Nov 8 vs Sting Royal NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 5 | SOLAR WHITE NTX | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 18 | 5 | +13 | 9 | 2.25 | WWLW | -2.26 | +0.66 | 10% | 7.3 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sun Oct 25 vs Sting Brave NTX · Sat Oct 31 at Sting Black NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs Dallas Cosmos SC NTX See all 11 future matchups ▸
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| 6 | FC Dallas Youth Blue NTX | 6 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 33 | 7 | +26 | 13 | 2.17 | WDWWL | -0.46 | +0.03 | 72% | 3.7 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 31 at Sting Brave NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs NTX Celtic FC NTX · Sat Feb 6 vs Nido Dallas NTX See all 9 future matchups ▸
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| 7 | Dallas Cosmos SC NTX | 6 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 17 | 12 | +5 | 11 | 1.83 | DWWLW | +0.28 | -0.19 | 6% | 7.2 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 31 at Dallas Texans Red NTX · Sat Nov 7 at SOLAR WHITE NTX · Sat Feb 6 vs FC Dallas Youth Red NTX See all 9 future matchups ▸
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| 8 | Dallas Texans NTX | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 3 | +3 | 7 | 1.75 | WLWD | -1.93 | +0.22 | 1% | 10.2 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 17 vs SOLAR BLUE NTX · Thu Oct 29 vs Sting Royal NTX · Sat Oct 31 vs Nido Dallas NTX See all 11 future matchups ▸
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| 9 | Sting Black NTX | 6 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 25 | 13 | +12 | 10 | 1.67 | DLWLW | -0.63 | +0.74 | 2% | 8.7 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 31 vs SOLAR WHITE NTX · Sat Nov 7 at SOLAR RED NTX · Sat Feb 6 vs Kernow Storm FC NTX See all 9 future matchups ▸
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| 10 | NTX Celtic FC NTX | 6 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 12 | +0 | 10 | 1.67 | LLDWW | +0.37 | +0.09 | 0% | 9.5 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Nov 7 at FC Dallas Youth Blue NTX · Sat Feb 6 vs Dallas Texans NTX · Sun Feb 7 vs DKSC NTX See all 9 future matchups ▸
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| 11 | DKSC WHITE NTX | 5 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 11 | 11 | +0 | 8 | 1.60 | DDWLW | -1.30 | +0.35 | 0% | 11.8 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 vs BVBIA DFW NTX · Sat Oct 31 at SOLAR NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs Kernow Storm FC NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 12 | SOLAR RED NTX | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 14 | 10 | +4 | 7 | 1.40 | WLLDW | -0.29 | +0.36 | 1% | 9.8 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 31 vs Fever United FC NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs Sting Black NTX · Sun Nov 8 vs SOLAR WHITE NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 13 | Kernow Storm FC NTX | 5 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 10 | 9 | +1 | 7 | 1.40 | LWLDW | -1.54 | +0.80 | 0% | 13.6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 vs SOLAR NTX · Sat Oct 31 at BVBIA DFW NTX · Sat Nov 7 at DKSC WHITE NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 14 | Fever United FC NTX | 5 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 7 | 9 | -2 | 6 | 1.20 | LWWLL | +0.32 | -0.08 | 0% | 12.0 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 31 at SOLAR RED NTX · Sun Nov 1 vs Sting Brave NTX · Sat Nov 7 at DKSC NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 15 | Nido Dallas NTX | 5 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 22 | -18 | 3 | 0.60 | LLWLL | +0.84 | -0.40 | 0% | 16.4 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 vs FC Dallas Youth Red NTX · Sat Oct 31 at Dallas Texans NTX · Sat Nov 7 at SOLAR BLUE NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 16 | FC Dallas Youth Red NTX | 5 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 14 | -10 | 2 | 0.40 | LLDDL | +1.80 | -0.51 | 0% | 15.1 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 at Nido Dallas NTX · Sat Oct 31 at FC Dallas Youth White NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs SOLAR NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 17 | SOLAR BLUE NTX | 4 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 15 | -12 | 1 | 0.25 | LDLL | +1.55 | -0.29 | 0% | 15.9 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 17 at Dallas Texans NTX · Sat Oct 24 vs FC Dallas Youth White NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs Nido Dallas NTX See all 11 future matchups ▸
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| 18 | FC Dallas Youth White NTX | 5 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 30 | -26 | 1 | 0.20 | LLLDL | +1.29 | -0.31 | 0% | 17.9 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 24 at SOLAR BLUE NTX · Sat Oct 31 vs FC Dallas Youth Red NTX · Sat Nov 7 vs Dallas Texans NTX See all 10 future matchups ▸
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| 19 | Dallas Texans Red NTX | 6 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 32 | -27 | 1 | 0.17 | LLLLL | +0.82 | +0.09 | 0% | 18.6 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Oct 31 vs Dallas Cosmos SC NTX · Sat Nov 7 at Sting Brave NTX · Sat Feb 6 vs SOLAR NTX See all 9 future matchups ▸
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| 20 | DKSC NTX | 6 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 40 | -40 | 0 | 0.00 | LLLLL | +1.16 | -0.26 | 0% | 19.7 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Next: Sat Nov 7 vs Fever United FC NTX · Sat Feb 6 vs FC Dallas Youth White NTX · Sun Feb 7 at NTX Celtic FC NTX See all 9 future matchups ▸
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Tap a team to see every game it has played (opponent's current position in brackets) and what's next. Ordered the way the league publishes it: points per game, then goal difference. The green edge marks the top 4. SoS is strength of schedule, the average model rating of opponents faced — positive means a harder road than average. "Top 4" and "Exp. finish" come from playing the rest of the season 2,000 times with the forecast model.
How the forecast works: every played game feeds each team's attack and defence rating, adjusted for who it was against — a goal past a strong defence counts for more than one past a weak one. Ratings are shrunk toward the league average (2.39 goals per team per game) by 3 "prior" games so early blowouts don't dominate, and results older than about 120 days count half. Expected goals for a matchup multiply those, with a 8% home bump, and a Poisson score grid gives win/draw/loss odds.